The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby killdozer » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:51 am

http://news.yahoo.com/ioc-drops-wrestli ... --oly.html

Well much to my amazement the Olympics are dropping wrestling.

You know what this means it is dead. What reasons do universities now have to keep programs that are not revenue sports that are not Olympic Sports.
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby no excuses » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:58 am

I am mad as heck. What can we do do to voice our displeasure? USA Wrestling needs to get out front and center and take a lead in showing our utter disgust in the IOC decision to drop wrestling. It needs to prompt and needs to be pointed!
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby TwosackJon » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:01 am

Sad day indeed.

.. and to see the list of "sports" that could replace wrestling makes the blow even tougher .... roller sports? rock climbing? wake boarding?

Most humans are just too soft for wrestling. Physically and mentally.

I'm pissed. :x
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Postby Buckeyebison » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:08 am

That is a biggest surprise. They vote wrestling out in land where the wrestling is popular(Russia).

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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby no excuses » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:09 am

The IOC needs to hear from 1,000,000 angry wrestlers today! USA Wrestling needs to get out front and center and make sure of voices are heard lound and clear. NOW!
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Postby Buckeyebison » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:10 am

Edit. I see it was voted in Switzerland. But it will be voted in Russia in May. So, it could help to pull wrestling back in.

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Postby Teaguemoore » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:13 am

This will change the perspective and view, of our sport, from administrators at the University level. It is now, more than ever, essential that we work together to grow the sport. We are currently in 2016 and out of 2020. We can earn our way back into 2020 with the right pressure.

It's time to join forces with mma, because of it's growing world wide popularity, and secure our growth and future as an essential part of it's makeup. If we do not make this connection, we present ourselves as a single, fringe sport on the outside of popular cultural with no real connection to anything outside of the NCAA and high school associations.

Time for some major changes!
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Postby Buckeyebison » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:19 am

Lemme get it right. They voted out the oldest sport over 19th century sport? What is wrong with the picture?

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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby fullnelson » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:30 am

Below is excerpt from the announcement; evidently the powers that be in wrestling felt they were safe. FILA is totally to blame for this; where was the fight? Obviously politics played into this as well with Samaranch influence. I am stunned right now.


"Today's decision is not final," Adams said. "The session is sovereign and the session will make the final decision."

The last sports removed from the Olympics were baseball and softball, voted out by the IOC in 2005 and off the program since the 2008 Beijing Games. Golf and rugby will be joining the program at the 2016 Games in Rio de Janeiro.

Previously considered under the closest scrutiny was modern pentathlon, which has been on the Olympic program since the 1912 Stockholm Games. It was created by French baron Pierre de Coubertin, the founder of the modern Olympic movement, and combines fencing, horse riding, swimming, running and shooting.

Klaus Schormann, president of governing body UIPM, lobbied hard to protect his sport's Olympic status and it paid off in the end.

"We have promised things and we have delivered," he said after Tuesday's decision. "That gives me a great feeling. It also gives me new energy to develop our sport further and never give up."

Modern pentathlon also benefited from the work of Juan Antonio Samaranch Jr., the son of the former IOC president who is a UIPM vice president and member of the IOC board.
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Postby tec87 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:46 am

fullnelson wrote:
Modern pentathlon also benefited from the work of Juan Antonio Samaranch Jr., the son of the former IOC president who is a UIPM vice president and member of the IOC board.


That's the key thing right there.
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby irish22 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:49 am

This is crap!!! We as a Wrestling community have to fight this!!!!
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby Veritech » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:15 am

This CAN NOT STAND! Wrestling is the oldest sport known to mankind. we must unite and overturn this decision
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Postby XIVCoach » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:18 am

It sounds like the Modern Pentathlon people knew their sport was up for a cut and worked hard to prevent it. While blindsided, the organizers at wrestling should lobby for their sport each cycle. It is not safe to do otherwise.
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby meloserio » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:25 am

It just boggles my mind how petty the Western Europeans can be. If Russia, Iran, Cuba, USA and the Eastern European and Asian countries didn't dominate, the sport would never be cut. I talked to sivler medalist Butch Keaser earlier this year and he said every change made to wrestling in the past 30 years had been made to hurt the Americans.

Wrestling is not a warm weather sport like golf or a sport that needs specifically built stadiums like soccer, all you need is a fieldhouse and mats. Every country that would potentially host the Olympics has access to these things. The overhead is low, singlets and shoes. It has a female component to it. They wrestle all over the world, it is man's oldest sport and one of THE original sports from ancient Greece. I hate the IOC and this superiority complex Western Europe still feels it needs to impose over the rest of the world.
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby Old_Marine_Wrestler » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:35 am

While FILA had their collective heads in the sand weighing the merits of the pushout rule, the other governing bodies pulled a ball out of the bag and pushed FILA's sport out of the games.

Great job guys!

Maybe the FILA officials will be able to keep their blue jackets and gray slacks though?
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby ADK83Wildcat » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:51 am

The biggest problem will be Baseball & Softball.. those sports have a lot of money. Although there is not worldwide support for them, both of them are big in the US, Japan and Australia... big money countries.

How many people participate in Pentathlon worldwide?? Probably less then 20,000... less then the # of wrestlers in New York.

Sad, sad, sad day... Hope FILA gets it act together...
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby pawrestl1 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:01 am

Maybe it's a shakedown by the IOC to get the world wrestling community to grease the right palms in Russia. Never forget what the olympics really are and the motives behind the people who run it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/finances-of-the-ioc-2012-8?op=
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Postby epek » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:03 am

I have lost a ton of faith in humanity. This is really a stupid thing that humans have figured out a way to do. There really is no explainable reason for this. I wonder what modern pentatholon heads have been up to lately. While FILA has been trying to modernize our sport to "look" good for the IOC, FILA turned a horse into a camel.
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby epek » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:04 am

pawrestl1 wrote:Maybe it's a shakedown by the IOC to get the world wrestling community to grease the right palms in Russia. Never forget what the olympics really are and the motives behind the people who run it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/finances-of-the-ioc-2012-8?op=


This makes sense, I can not understand this decision with out the element of corruption.
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby PRyan2012 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:09 am

FILA is 99% to blame. Stupid arse rules number 1. #2 everything is messed up in international wrestling, the brackets o how they are drawn and the dumb tennis like rules. A push out worth as much as a take down? A guy falls to his back for 1 second from his feet and that is 3 points. Sorry I am just amazed at what just happened. Well the UFC is the winner here. Now after college people will go there.
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby Rhino88 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:10 am

The way to fight is to unite as Americans and boycot the sponsors.....Let them know our frustrationTry these numbers on for size:

282,000 high school and collegiate wrestlers in the US. Each with at least 2 other family members = 846,000 people.

I would venture to say that there are at least another 1 million old wrestlers, coaches, fans out there.

So what kind of impact would that have on Coke, McDonalds, etc. if almost 2 million americans boycotted them for a month, 2 months, 3 months?

I am an average soda drinker and moderate McD visitor, but I bet I spend maybe $40 a month on those products. 2 million people x $40 a month equals $80,0000,0000 out of their pockets in one month. What kind of financial impact would that have over months, years? That is pressure!

With Twitter, Facebook and social media, it should be easy to create a movement that only requires a simple non-action such as not buying these products.

Those corporations and their corporate sponsorships have more influence on the IOC than any groups ever will.

I am sending out e-mails to those sponsors today and it is Dr. Pepper and Burger King for me for the next year!
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby Rhino88 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:13 am

The way to fight is to unite as Americans and boycot the sponsors.....Let them know our frustrationTry these numbers on for size:

282,000 high school and collegiate wrestlers in the US. Each with at least 2 other family members = 846,000 people.

I would venture to say that there are at least another 1 million old wrestlers, coaches, fans out there.

So what kind of impact would that have on Coke, McDonalds, etc. if almost 2 million americans boycotted them for a month, 2 months, 3 months?

I am an average soda drinker and moderate McD visitor, but I bet I spend maybe $40 a month on those products. 2 million people x $40 a month equals $80,0000,0000 out of their pockets in one month. What kind of financial impact would that have over months, years? That is pressure!

With Twitter, Facebook and social media, it should be easy to create a movement that only requires a simple non-action such as not buying these products.

Those corporations and their corporate sponsorships have more influence on the IOC than any groups ever will.

I am sending out e-mails to those sponsors today and it is Dr. Pepper and Burger King for me for the next year!
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby ClawRide » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:16 am

TwosackJon wrote:Sad day indeed.

.. and to see the list of "sports" that could replace wrestling makes the blow even tougher .... roller sports? rock climbing? wake boarding?

Most humans are just too soft for wrestling. Physically and mentally.

I'm pissed. :x


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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby coach4title » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:18 am

Could this lead to the reduction in college opportunities to wrestle... and if so, just how big an effect?

What if it is not added back after 2020? What does this do to wrestling at the OTC, etc?

Will this lead to a decline in participation at the high school level with what could basically be very little to no scholarship opportunities, no Olympic dreams, etc?

This could be what keeps Burroughs from being the greatest American wrestler of all time (hypothetically speaking at this point in time of course).

What a crock of donkey $hit!
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Re: The Final Death Nail to Wrestling has been done!

Postby vsnej » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:19 am

Out of curiosity (and outrage) i looked up the makeup of the IOC Executive Board

Some interesting facts...

1 President, 4 vice presidents & 10 other members

Board makeup:

Belgium, Singapore, Germany (2), Morocco, Great Britain, Australia, So Africa, Sweden, China Taipei, Switzerland, Ireland, Spain, Ukraine, Guatemala

Sports that members competed or particpated in:

Yachting (2)
Fencinng (2)
Track & Field (2)
Badminton
Rowing
Swimming
Basketball
Ice Hockey
Judo
Skiing
Baseball


President
Count Jacques ROGGE Entry in the IOC 1991
Country BEL (Belgium) - Born 02 May 1942, GENT
Sports career Yachting: competitor in the Olympic Games in Mexico in 1968

VICE-PRESIDENTS
Mr Ser Miang NG Entry in the IOC 1998
Country SIN (Singapore) - Born 06 April 1949
Sports career Participated in various international, continental and regional yacht races

Mr Thomas BACH Entry in the IOC 1991
Country GER (Germany) - Born 29 December 1953, WÜRZBURG
Sports career Olympic champion, fencing (foil)

Ms Nawal EL MOUTAWAKEL Entry in the IOC 1998
Country MAR (Morocco) - Born 15 April 1962
Sports career Moroccan Champion in 100 m, 200 m, 400 m hurdles

Sir Craig REEDIE Entry in the IOC 1994
Country GBR (Great Britain) - Born 06 May 1941, STIRLING
Sports career Participation in badminton competitions

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MEMBERS
Mr John D. COATES, AC Entry in the IOC 2001
Country AUS (Australia) - Born 07 May 1950
Sports practised Rowing (coxswain)

Mr Sam RAMSAMY Entry in the IOC 1995
Country RSA (South Africa) - Born 27 January 1938, DURBAN
Sports career Represented Natal Province in athletics; coached swimming, football and athletics at national level

Mrs Gunilla LINDBERG Entry in the IOC 1996
Country SWE (Sweden) - Born 06 May 1947, HAMMARBY
Administrator

Mr Ching-Kuo WU Entry in the IOC 1988
Country TPE (Chinese Taipei) - Born 18 October 1946, NANKING
Sports career Captain of Tung-Hai University basketball team

Dr René FASEL Entry in the IOC 1995
Country SUI (Switzerland) - Born 06 February 1950, Fribourg
Sports career Ice-hockey player

Mr Patrick Joseph HICKEY Entry in the IOC 1995
Country IRL (Ireland) - Born 17 June 1945, DUBLIN
Sports career Judo black belt

Mrs Claudia BOKEL Entry in the IOC 2008
Country GER (Germany) - Born 30 August 1973
Sports career Fencing (epee) Silver medallist at the Olympic Games in 2004

Mr Juan Antonio SAMARANCH JR Entry in the IOC 2001
Country ESP (Spain) - Born 01 November 1959
Sports practised Skiing, golf, running, tennis

Mr Sergey BUBKA Entry in the IOC 2008
Country UKR (Ukraine) - Born 04 December 1963
Sports career Athletics (pole vault) Participated in four editions of the Games of the Olympiad

Mr Willi KALTSCHMITT LUJÁN Entry in the IOC 1988
Country GUA (Guatemala) - Born 13 August 1939, SAN JOSE
Sports career Player, Guatemalan Major League Baseballboxing official at several Olympic Games


http://www.olympic.org/executive-board?tab=Composition
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