Scott versus Opan Sat from Yarygin

by **quanon** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:54 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYD_DT14nmM

by **cjc007** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:08 pm

..that was ugly.

by **MadMardigain** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:20 pm

Sat's tough. I've always liked watching him.

by **dsnc471** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:46 am

Man, Sat is good. Good movement, really good with the two on one, and impossible to score on even when out of position.

As an aside, why do we as a team always look so terrible from the tripod position? We don't seem to have any standard finishes so we try something risky and get burned. Happened to Scott in this match. Happened to Cael at 2011 Worlds in the Bronze medal match. Happens to a lot of our guys.

by **Matburn155** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:50 am

Man Sat is a beast! Have always loved watching him as well.

by **gutfirst** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:35 am

winnable period in the second for scott. right hand too high on his first shot. indecisive after the duck. legs or cradle? pick one and do it right.

by **Stumpy** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:39 am

It was interesting hearing Zeke's commands from the corner the whole match.

Sat is impressive!

by **afgrasshoppa** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:24 am

The 2 on 1 is so under utilized in the states.

by **dsnc471** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:50 pm

afgrasshoppa wrote:The 2 on 1 is so under utilized in the states.

Guys here let go of the 2 on 1 as soon as they get their heads pushed away and there is no easy leg attack. Guys that are good with the 2 on 1 don't seem to mind if their heads are blocked, because their attacks don't involve a straight on leg attack. Sat isn't the only Russian wrestler that frequently uses the 2 on 1 to violently move the opponent around and snap him down, even if his head is blocked. And if the guy doesn't go down, he uses that nice little foot block maneuver to set up either a shot or a go behind. His leg is like an additional hand. Tsargush took Burroughs down several times in their match at the Olympics with a similar foot hook from a 2 on 1 to a single leg.

by **BAC** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:22 pm

There's a lot that U.S. freestylers could learn from watching that. So many techniques used successfully here that you'd never see at U.S. nationals or OTTs.

by **olddirty** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:27 pm

dsnc471 wrote:Man, Sat is good. Good movement, really good with the two on one, and impossible to score on even when out of position.

As an aside, why do we as a team always look so terrible from the tripod position? We don't seem to have any standard finishes so we try something risky and get burned. Happened to Scott in this match. Happened to Cael at 2011 Worlds in the Bronze medal match. Happens to a lot of our guys.

He was down by three against a guy with very good par terre defense. In that position, he probably could have just pushed him out for the easy 1pt or got him to touch the knee, but he needed a big move to win the period so he went with a cutback cradle. It was risky, but he needed 3pts in a hurry. Cant blame him for trying to get the win.

by **iowawrestling8989** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:28 pm

Agree.. he probably figured his best chance for a turn would be at that point as opposed to scoring the td and then trying to get a quick turn in par tarre.

by **dsnc471** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:45 pm

Fair enough. I'll have to go back and see how much time was left in the period. Somehow I didn't think it was desperation time yet, but maybe it was short time. Obviously if the cradle had worked we'd be singing his praises, but he never quite got in position. In any event, that wasn't why he lost the match, and there's no shame in losing to Sat. That dude is good.

by **epek** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:07 pm

Scott is a great wrestler, but he lost confidence during this match, and did not act like he had confidence in executing that cradle. Sat is tough, but that means you have to commit to your skills and technique, and Scott looked surprised when he got behind him, and looked to me like he was going to ask permission if he could try the cradle, not pop a vein going for it.

by **jstock** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:33 pm

Wow Sat is tough. That double defense is what stood out to me. Look for that same defense to (try to) be implemented against J.Burroughs.

by **gutfirst** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:46 pm

jstock wrote:Wow Sat is tough. That double defense is what stood out to me. Look for that same defense to (try to) be implemented against J.Burroughs.

it'll never work on burroughs. his lock is always joint to joint and he always in the box, comes up with his hips down.

by **afgrasshoppa** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:04 pm

It's not like Coleman just lost a Russian on the ladder. Sat would probably have a World/Olympic Medal if it weren't for Mr. Kudukhov.

by **MadMardigain** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:12 pm

afgrasshoppa wrote:It's not like Coleman just lost a Russian on the ladder. Sat would probably have a World/Olympic Medal if it weren't for Mr. Kudukhov.

A few people would have some more of those if it wasn't for Mr. Kudukhov.

But your point is correct, Sat is legit.

by **silver-medal** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:34 pm

I have nowhere near the freestyle knowledge of many of you but I'll offer up another observation.

Coleman Scott peaked at the perfect time for 2012. You could see his wrestling get better almost before your eyes as the Olympic Trials (and subsequently the Olympics) drew near.

In this match, he looks like the Coleman Scott of 2010.

by **dsnc471** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:31 pm

silver-medal wrote:I have nowhere near the freestyle knowledge of many of you but I'll offer up another observation.

Coleman Scott peaked at the perfect time for 2012. You could see his wrestling get better almost before your eyes as the Olympic Trials (and subsequently the Olympics) drew near.

In this match, he looks like the Coleman Scott of 2010.

I'm not quite sure if that's accurate. In this match, he looked like a guy that was simply out-matched in every phase of the freestyle game by a guy who is a world champion caliber wrestler. If this match took place at the Olympics, if Sat had been the Russian rep, I don't see Scott winning then either.

by **afgrasshoppa** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:28 am

silver-medal wrote:I have nowhere near the freestyle knowledge of many of you but I'll offer up another observation.

Coleman Scott peaked at the perfect time for 2012. You could see his wrestling get better almost before your eyes as the Olympic Trials (and subsequently the Olympics) drew near.

In this match, he looks like the Coleman Scott of 2010.

Coleman placed 5th at the Yarygin. I am sure it's not what he wanted, however the playing field for the Yarygin and Worlds/Olympics are not far apart. He is doing just fine. Remember Sat did not go to the Olympics, he has probably been training at a consistent level. Coleman has had some time off, he is doing just fine.